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1. Amanda 11 Mai

   all of this, I admit that I don't know what goes on behind the scnees, or what has been edited out of the final footage. There might well be cases where Cesar's interventions haven't worked or even where they might have exacerbated existing problems. Still, I would have to see these things for myself and form my own conclusions. I will not simply take someone else's word for it. After all, trainees, environmental variables, and trainers all contribute to the success or failure of interventions. I would not attempt the Alpha Roll and I have no opinion as to its applicability in dog training. (I once had a pit mix who greeted a dog he got along with (another pit mix ) by bumping her into lying down. Then he would stand over/on top of her. In a couple of seconds, they would start walking together peacefully. I didn't like seeing this and thought it was bad manners on my dog's part, but it seemed to work for them. (I do not know how to interpret this interaction. I can think of several possibilities, but it seems useless to simply speculate.) In any event, viewers of Cesar's show are routinely advised not to apply Cesar's techniques by themselves.I do not use Cesar's techniques because I'm rather selfish and enjoy giving my dog far more affection than structure or exercise and I do provide her with a generous amount of training both indoors and outdoors. I'm working on reversing this order, but, to be honest, I'm still failing miserably.People (including those who are dog trainers) will have to prove to me that they can achieve Cesar's results with the types of cases he takes on while using as few aversives as he seems to employ. Keep in mind that much of what we call corrections can be regarded as containing aversives (which behaviorists define in operational terms). Even reprimands can be regarded as aversives. Context is critical! Also keep in mind that behaviorism encompasses a number of different schools of thought. Despite certain theoretical differences, many approaches complement each other to a certain degree in practical therapeutic applications. In the real world of consumer-driven therapies, policies and procedures based on behavioral principles have been adopted with liability considerations in mind. This has resulted in ongoing debates among professionals over the proper role and definition of aversives. I would never place a wager on Cesar winning a debate with professional dog trainers with extensive clinical experience and strong academic credentials. I would still gladly utilize his guidance (if I could afford it!) if I had a dog with serious problem behaviors. I would also welcome the advise of dog trainers who strenuously disagree with Cesar! I have happily subscribed to The Whole Dog Journal for many years and own (and have read) quite a number of books by behaviorally-oriented dog trainers whose approaches are not totally compatible with Cesar's. Every approach is fine with me, as long as it is, in my opinion, humane, pragmatic, and effective. Hats off to Cesar who has done so much for dogs, their owners, and the communities in which they live! Cue wild applause for (the late, great) Daddy's and Junior's owner and the owner of the Dog Psychology Center. Keep doing exactly what you have been doing for the bully breeds and all the other breeds and breed mixes of the world! And, Cesar, continue to consult with other dog behaviorists and trainers to improve your skills and knowledge base.

2. Amanda 11 Mai

   all of this, I admit that I don't know what goes on behind the scnees, or what has been edited out of the final footage. There might well be cases where Cesar's interventions haven't worked or even where they might have exacerbated existing problems. Still, I would have to see these things for myself and form my own conclusions. I will not simply take someone else's word for it. After all, trainees, environmental variables, and trainers all contribute to the success or failure of interventions. I would not attempt the Alpha Roll and I have no opinion as to its applicability in dog training. (I once had a pit mix who greeted a dog he got along with (another pit mix ) by bumping her into lying down. Then he would stand over/on top of her. In a couple of seconds, they would start walking together peacefully. I didn't like seeing this and thought it was bad manners on my dog's part, but it seemed to work for them. (I do not know how to interpret this interaction. I can think of several possibilities, but it seems useless to simply speculate.) In any event, viewers of Cesar's show are routinely advised not to apply Cesar's techniques by themselves.I do not use Cesar's techniques because I'm rather selfish and enjoy giving my dog far more affection than structure or exercise and I do provide her with a generous amount of training both indoors and outdoors. I'm working on reversing this order, but, to be honest, I'm still failing miserably.People (including those who are dog trainers) will have to prove to me that they can achieve Cesar's results with the types of cases he takes on while using as few aversives as he seems to employ. Keep in mind that much of what we call corrections can be regarded as containing aversives (which behaviorists define in operational terms). Even reprimands can be regarded as aversives. Context is critical! Also keep in mind that behaviorism encompasses a number of different schools of thought. Despite certain theoretical differences, many approaches complement each other to a certain degree in practical therapeutic applications. In the real world of consumer-driven therapies, policies and procedures based on behavioral principles have been adopted with liability considerations in mind. This has resulted in ongoing debates among professionals over the proper role and definition of aversives. I would never place a wager on Cesar winning a debate with professional dog trainers with extensive clinical experience and strong academic credentials. I would still gladly utilize his guidance (if I could afford it!) if I had a dog with serious problem behaviors. I would also welcome the advise of dog trainers who strenuously disagree with Cesar! I have happily subscribed to The Whole Dog Journal for many years and own (and have read) quite a number of books by behaviorally-oriented dog trainers whose approaches are not totally compatible with Cesar's. Every approach is fine with me, as long as it is, in my opinion, humane, pragmatic, and effective. Hats off to Cesar who has done so much for dogs, their owners, and the communities in which they live! Cue wild applause for (the late, great) Daddy's and Junior's owner and the owner of the Dog Psychology Center. Keep doing exactly what you have been doing for the bully breeds and all the other breeds and breed mixes of the world! And, Cesar, continue to consult with other dog behaviorists and trainers to improve your skills and knowledge base.

3. Amanda 11 Mai

   all of this, I admit that I don't know what goes on behind the scnees, or what has been edited out of the final footage. There might well be cases where Cesar's interventions haven't worked or even where they might have exacerbated existing problems. Still, I would have to see these things for myself and form my own conclusions. I will not simply take someone else's word for it. After all, trainees, environmental variables, and trainers all contribute to the success or failure of interventions. I would not attempt the Alpha Roll and I have no opinion as to its applicability in dog training. (I once had a pit mix who greeted a dog he got along with (another pit mix ) by bumping her into lying down. Then he would stand over/on top of her. In a couple of seconds, they would start walking together peacefully. I didn't like seeing this and thought it was bad manners on my dog's part, but it seemed to work for them. (I do not know how to interpret this interaction. I can think of several possibilities, but it seems useless to simply speculate.) In any event, viewers of Cesar's show are routinely advised not to apply Cesar's techniques by themselves.I do not use Cesar's techniques because I'm rather selfish and enjoy giving my dog far more affection than structure or exercise and I do provide her with a generous amount of training both indoors and outdoors. I'm working on reversing this order, but, to be honest, I'm still failing miserably.People (including those who are dog trainers) will have to prove to me that they can achieve Cesar's results with the types of cases he takes on while using as few aversives as he seems to employ. Keep in mind that much of what we call corrections can be regarded as containing aversives (which behaviorists define in operational terms). Even reprimands can be regarded as aversives. Context is critical! Also keep in mind that behaviorism encompasses a number of different schools of thought. Despite certain theoretical differences, many approaches complement each other to a certain degree in practical therapeutic applications. In the real world of consumer-driven therapies, policies and procedures based on behavioral principles have been adopted with liability considerations in mind. This has resulted in ongoing debates among professionals over the proper role and definition of aversives. I would never place a wager on Cesar winning a debate with professional dog trainers with extensive clinical experience and strong academic credentials. I would still gladly utilize his guidance (if I could afford it!) if I had a dog with serious problem behaviors. I would also welcome the advise of dog trainers who strenuously disagree with Cesar! I have happily subscribed to The Whole Dog Journal for many years and own (and have read) quite a number of books by behaviorally-oriented dog trainers whose approaches are not totally compatible with Cesar's. Every approach is fine with me, as long as it is, in my opinion, humane, pragmatic, and effective. Hats off to Cesar who has done so much for dogs, their owners, and the communities in which they live! Cue wild applause for (the late, great) Daddy's and Junior's owner and the owner of the Dog Psychology Center. Keep doing exactly what you have been doing for the bully breeds and all the other breeds and breed mixes of the world! And, Cesar, continue to consult with other dog behaviorists and trainers to improve your skills and knowledge base.

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